Finish the game before making it more complicated

So I wanted to find an explanation elsewhere but all of the relevant threads are locked. Why would the devs think it's a good idea to incorporate cross platform play on a game that's not 90% done yet? Just seems silly to me but, what do I know. I already paid for the game so I guess like everyone else I'll continue waiting for the game to be complete...
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Yakumo_2020 replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 28, 2022 @ 12:22:09 am PDT

Originally posted by Horemvore:
Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:
Given that the patch enabling the crossplay has aparently broken a notable number of installs maybe IG should ask for a refund. Because it certainly doesn't seem like the group IG hired bothered to test their code before handing it over to IG.

Probably due to Mods.

If your using mods, probably with server sync, disable Crossplay for your server.
Nope, solo game using normal local client:server install with no mods installed. I even uninstalled the game, renamed the original game install folder, then had Steam do a clean reinstall. Game still didn't start. Someone on a different thread suggested a workaround of forcing steam to use an old_stable version that did get the game going again on my system but for those running a dedicated server, either at home or a hosting service, can't use that workaround.

Hopefully your suggestion will help those people.

and for the record I'm running Valhiem on a Debian 10 GNU/Linux install and haven't applied any OS or system updates in about 2 weeks so whatever is happening is definitly due to IG's recent patch.
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Migz - DH replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 10:20:12 pm PDT

The Swedish team Piktiv was hired for the crossplay development btw. So, presumably, this effort didn't take too much time away from whatever else Iron Gate is doing on Valheim even though I'm sure there was collaboration between the two studios.
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Altimely replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 11:08:52 pm PDT

Originally posted by Ghesh:
Originally posted by Ryzilynt:
Because the publisher : Coffee Stain, is the one that makes "publishing" decisions.

I'm guessing they would like to "Publish" this game in more places.

Do you ever have anything helpful to say?

Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it isn't helpful or true.
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Yakumo_2020 replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 11:17:51 pm PDT

Originally posted by Migz - DH:
The Swedish team Piktiv was hired for the crossplay development btw. So, presumably, this effort didn't take too much time away from whatever else Iron Gate is doing on Valheim even though I'm sure there was collaboration between the two studios.
Given that the patch enabling the crossplay has aparently broken a notable number of installs maybe IG should ask for a refund. Because it certainly doesn't seem like the group IG hired bothered to test their code before handing it over to IG.
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gerzald replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 11:41:29 pm PDT

That weak sauce zombie shooter game that came out a year ago had cross play.
I remember that I had to turn it off due to console player RST syndrome.
(Random-Stupid-Toxic)
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Altimely replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 11:43:08 pm PDT

Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:
aparently broken a notable number of installs

source?
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Horemvore replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 11:47:48 pm PDT

Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:
Originally posted by Migz - DH:
The Swedish team Piktiv was hired for the crossplay development btw. So, presumably, this effort didn't take too much time away from whatever else Iron Gate is doing on Valheim even though I'm sure there was collaboration between the two studios.
Given that the patch enabling the crossplay has aparently broken a notable number of installs maybe IG should ask for a refund. Because it certainly doesn't seem like the group IG hired bothered to test their code before handing it over to IG.

Probably due to Mods.

If your using mods, probably with server sync, disable Crossplay for your server.
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Yakumo_2020 replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 28, 2022 @ 12:10:20 am PDT

Originally posted by Altimely:
Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:
aparently broken a notable number of installs

source?
These forumns. in the last day there have been many threads with people haivng issues, myself included, with the patch breaking the game. A couple of people complaining about the game not starting or crashing with random errors is expected but the number of threads and comments about the same issue, servers and local clients failing to start with the same symptoms after the patch gets installed is worth mentioning, hence "notable".

Merrim/Webster definition of "Notable" is "worthy of note "
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/notable
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Horemvore replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 28, 2022 @ 12:16:08 am PDT

Originally posted by Yakumo_2020:
Originally posted by Altimely:

source?
These forumns. in the last day there have been many threads with people haivng issues, myself included, with the patch breaking the game. A couple of people complaining about the game not starting or crashing with random errors is expected but the number of threads and comments about the same issue, servers and local clients failing to start with the same symptoms after the patch gets installed is worth mentioning, hence "notable".

Merrim/Webster definition of "Notable" is "worthy of note "
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/notable

And all quite easy to fix, so not that notable at all...
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sarteck replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 5:11:26 pm PDT

Because cross-platform means they can cash in more.
I'm not saying this to be a brat about the topic (although I am angered by it), but it makes sense for them to try to profit as much as possible off of it. Especially since it's seeming less and less likely as time goes on that we'll actually ever see a finished product.
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GunsForBucks replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 5:24:50 pm PDT

I can certainly see the profit motive but it isn't a bad idea honestly.
My main gripes with console game is basing the controls off of gamepad then mapping keyboard mouse in.... as long as the game stays keyboard mouse based to begin with it's all good to me.

I can see some slight delay for putting out big content patches but not much. Bug fixing for console should be a non issue since the console thing is a "fixed" hardware base and probably handled by outsourced devs anyway.

So I don't see console side really effecting the game development in the long run by much. I still have faith they are looking at the big picture and will finish the game as intended.
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Ryzilynt replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 5:38:19 pm PDT

Because the publisher : Coffee Stain, is the one that makes "publishing" decisions.

I'm guessing they would like to "Publish" this game in more places.
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Ghesh replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 6:26:58 pm PDT

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:
Because the publisher : Coffee Stain, is the one that makes "publishing" decisions.

I'm guessing they would like to "Publish" this game in more places.

Do you ever have anything helpful to say?
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Foxglovez replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 7:36:21 pm PDT

So we can't hate IronGate for making the game useful on more platforms? You mean all the devs didn't stop working on the game to work on the crossplay? Like maybe a whole different outfit did that, like it was farmed out? I am shocked and appalled I can't be mad at Valheim for that. You have ruined my day.
/s
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Vin replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 8:05:45 pm PDT

i laughed when i saw crossplay then proceeded to disable it. causes more problems than it solves.

examples?

Outriders
WWZ: aftermath
Aliens Fireteam Elite

im sure there are more but these ones i know off the top of my head through experiences.
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Blaadirk replied to Finish the game before making it more complicated September 27, 2022 @ 10:11:00 pm PDT

So the Devs can take in millions $ more, then leave the console crowd hanging for years.
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