Frostner before Bonemass?

Was thinking about poking around in the Mountains a bit to see if I could find enough Silver to make Frostner, and maybe Draugr Fang, prior to Bonemass.

Is the effort involved in this worth it? I suppose I could also end up with enough Wolf Pelts for at least the Wolf Cape, or chest item.. but also probably end up enabling the "You are being Hunted.." event at the same time.

Thoughts? (As a note, I do have everything Iron-related fully upgraded, Armor included, which I know I'd probably want for Wolves.. haha.)
2:13 am, October 20, 2021
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Requimatic replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 20, 2021 @ 7:25:08 am PDT

Ayy, good replies, thanks all!

I'm not particularly worried about fighting Bonemass that I want Frostner to do so, I was more or less curious if the investment would be worth it for the fight, and then for early Mountain progression. I was honestly more interested in crafting the Wolf Cape or chest armor early so I didn't have to deal with Frost Resistance Meads later. Guess that's kind of a moot point, though, since I need them to explore there anyway, hah.

I actually checked out a couple Mountains on my seed. One was so small it couldn't even spawn Mountain mobs, and the other I went to, which was large enough to do so, gave me a bit of a heads up as to what to expect when I do spend a lot of time there.

Everything went pretty well until I got caught with my pants down at night by a starred Wolf + a non-starred buddy of his. For anyone at this same point that's curious, a fully-upgraded set of Iron Armor + Iron Buckler/Mace (also fully upgraded) is enough to handle non-starred Wolves pretty readily. A hit from one does ~14 damage.

The starred one, though.. 34+ damage. Stagger was also an issue trying to deal with both. :)

I imagine this situation is why the Bonemass power is handy to have when exploring Mountains.
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GunsForBucks replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 20, 2021 @ 7:50:48 am PDT

Originally posted by Requimatic:
Ayy, good replies, thanks all!

I'm not particularly worried about fighting Bonemass that I want Frostner to do so, I was more or less curious if the investment would be worth it for the fight, and then for early Mountain progression. I was honestly more interested in crafting the Wolf Cape or chest armor early so I didn't have to deal with Frost Resistance Meads later. Guess that's kind of a moot point, though, since I need them to explore there anyway, hah.

I actually checked out a couple Mountains on my seed. One was so small it couldn't even spawn Mountain mobs, and the other I went to, which was large enough to do so, gave me a bit of a heads up as to what to expect when I do spend a lot of time there.

Everything went pretty well until I got caught with my pants down at night by a starred Wolf + a non-starred buddy of his. For anyone at this same point that's curious, a fully-upgraded set of Iron Armor + Iron Buckler/Mace (also fully upgraded) is enough to handle non-starred Wolves pretty readily. A hit from one does ~14 damage.

The starred one, though.. 34+ damage. Stagger was also an issue trying to deal with both. :)

I imagine this situation is why the Bonemass power is handy to have when exploring Mountains.
Don't go at night until after you have wolf set. Unless you want to die and take the death penalty. <I am sure some people could do it with no armor but ... to be safe...>
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Requimatic replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 20, 2021 @ 8:22:49 am PDT

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:
Originally posted by Requimatic:
Ayy, good replies, thanks all!

I'm not particularly worried about fighting Bonemass that I want Frostner to do so, I was more or less curious if the investment would be worth it for the fight, and then for early Mountain progression. I was honestly more interested in crafting the Wolf Cape or chest armor early so I didn't have to deal with Frost Resistance Meads later. Guess that's kind of a moot point, though, since I need them to explore there anyway, hah.

I actually checked out a couple Mountains on my seed. One was so small it couldn't even spawn Mountain mobs, and the other I went to, which was large enough to do so, gave me a bit of a heads up as to what to expect when I do spend a lot of time there.

Everything went pretty well until I got caught with my pants down at night by a starred Wolf + a non-starred buddy of his. For anyone at this same point that's curious, a fully-upgraded set of Iron Armor + Iron Buckler/Mace (also fully upgraded) is enough to handle non-starred Wolves pretty readily. A hit from one does ~14 damage.

The starred one, though.. 34+ damage. Stagger was also an issue trying to deal with both. :)

I imagine this situation is why the Bonemass power is handy to have when exploring Mountains.
Don't go at night until after you have wolf set. Unless you want to die and take the death penalty. <I am sure some people could do it with no armor but ... to be safe...>

Lol, yeah.. I got a bit ballsy and then the moon rolled out. I got caught by the starred Wolf, a non-starred, and a Fenring.

It was a pretty educational exploration mission, nonetheless. I guess later I'll be building another forward base outside of that biome for easy hauling. :)
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blankitosonic replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 20, 2021 @ 6:19:37 am PDT

Well , i tried to go arround mountains in bronce-iron age looking for onions seeds ( you can cook onion soup with just spice rack upgrade ) , its possible to stay there if you have already an iron buckler lvl 3 but if wolves event pops up get ready to be smashed , golems are almost a sure death if you dont get them into a pit because its so hard to kill them without iron mace and iron pickaxe way can be a suicide if u fall from them , drakes are not a problem
If you are lucky can fins uncover silver veins but the slow way ( hit with the big hammer the ground ) is loosing time
Iron mace and buckler its enought to crush bonemass
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big hat arxm replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 20, 2021 @ 7:04:08 am PDT

i used the stagbreaker as a metal detector to find silver. you'll need meads until you can forge yourself the wolf chest armour or cloak. It's obviously not intended and i don't think it offers such an advantage that merits the time doing it that way.
imo you should just wipe out bonemass and then start silver age
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Fzanco replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 10:43:06 pm PDT

Frostner will be an op weapon for bonemass but a fully upgraded iron mace will do the job well. It's an easy melee fight, pop poison resist, pop eikthyr buff. hit him with a three hit combo between each strike he does, run/jump/roll (your choice they should all work) directly away to dodge attack, rinse and repeat, recover when needed, even when he does the posion barf keep hitting, the posion resist makes it not even hurt you. Kill his adds when he throws them, easy yo, did it in level 2 iron gear was a cake walk. I think I used maybe 1 health potion.
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jonnin replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 8:27:32 pm PDT

Originally posted by Lil Puppy:
You guys are fighting bosses before you get all the things?
I'm the "OP Isekai guy" in games like this, I like to level up as high as possible and get all the stuff that can be achieved before touching bosses, simply because I can.

the game is rigged so you 'need' to fight the bosses to progress.
the first pick is on the first boss, without that you can't progress to bronze / tin /copper items. The second boss has the key to the crypts where iron is. The third has the locator for silver.
You can avoid this with a lot of hand waving, but that is how the game is designed. Sure, troll dragging will smash bronze without a pick, digging at random in swamps will get you a little iron, knowing where to look and some luck will get you silver, etc. But that is a mix of foreknowledge / looking ahead on the web and luck. Its not meant for you to gear to the max then backtrack to smash the bosses without effort, even if you can do it that way. That said, play like you want to play -- I am simply pointing out the obvious path that the game / devs provided as 'the way to do it'.
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HarmlessYoda replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 9:19:22 pm PDT

Originally posted by jonnin:
Originally posted by Lil Puppy:
You guys are fighting bosses before you get all the things?
I'm the "OP Isekai guy" in games like this, I like to level up as high as possible and get all the stuff that can be achieved before touching bosses, simply because I can.

the game is rigged so you 'need' to fight the bosses to progress.
the first pick is on the first boss, without that you can't progress to bronze / tin /copper items. The second boss has the key to the crypts where iron is. The third has the locator for silver.
You can avoid this with a lot of hand waving, but that is how the game is designed. Sure, troll dragging will smash bronze without a pick, digging at random in swamps will get you a little iron, knowing where to look and some luck will get you silver, etc. But that is a mix of foreknowledge / looking ahead on the web and luck. Its not meant for you to gear to the max then backtrack to smash the bosses without effort, even if you can do it that way. That said, play like you want to play -- I am simply pointing out the obvious path that the game / devs provided as 'the way to do it'.

That and the fact it is simply not necessary. I just beat bonemass last night still using a fine bow and a lvl 3 iron one handed mace. It was actually really easy.

Run from his poison nova attack, block/parry his arm attack and kill the mobs he spawns asap each time he spawns them. It only took about 5 minutes i used one medium heal pot and poison pot.
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Ygzeb replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 4:29:23 pm PDT

Definitely worth it. Bit of advice: Bonemass weakness are frost arrows :greenslime:
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Requimatic replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 4:30:32 pm PDT

Originally posted by Ygzeb:
Definitely worth it. Bit of advice: Bonemass weakness are frost arrows :greenslime:

Ah, good to know! Thanks!

Know what I'm doing later then.. haha.
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GunsForBucks replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 4:38:40 pm PDT

I go for silver before I kill bonemass. I can find it pretty fast knowing where to look.
I don't think the hunted event will trigger without bonemass being killed. Never seen it but it may have changed.

For silver you need to be high up. If you find a golem there is probably some near by, Look for humps or hollows. Found a bunch next to the Moder shrine but I don't think that is typical. You don't need to find too many spots you get a decent amount from each spot.

Wolf chest grants cold resistance as well. Personally I like the look of the troll cape with the wolf chest over the Zaphod Beeblebrox extra head look.
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Faceplant8 replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 5:02:52 pm PDT

Have you found the trader yet? The iron sledge and iron mace work very well against bonemass. If I remember correctly, you also have to have a Draugr Elite trophy for the iron sledge, but it's a great weapon.

What I did the first time through bonemass was wall of a small area with tall earthen wall to provide a safe spot to heal if necessary, and then used the iron mace to pound bonemass, and the iron sledge to clear his minions. That, along with good food and poison + stamina mead will get the job done.
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Lenny Rat replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 5:19:32 pm PDT

Originally posted by Ygzeb:
Definitely worth it. Bit of advice: Bonemass weakness are frost arrows :greenslime:

For the respect of others that wanted to find that out on their own, please frame spoilers as such.
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Nascarman replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 5:19:51 pm PDT

Originally posted by Ygzeb:
Definitely worth it. Bit of advice: Bonemass weakness are frost arrows :greenslime:

Definitely not worth it. An iron mace is good enough, and you’re not intended to be able to build a frostner until after bonemass. Unless you wanna go slamming the ground with an iron sledge for hours, just beat bonemass with swamp stuff and save the mountain stuff for the mountains.
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Lil Puppy replied to Frostner before Bonemass? October 19, 2021 @ 5:43:37 pm PDT

You guys are fighting bosses before you get all the things?
I'm the "OP Isekai guy" in games like this, I like to level up as high as possible and get all the stuff that can be achieved before touching bosses, simply because I can.
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