Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands?

I've played quite alot now and I'm just always left with a sense of frustration of what could be, I decided to give the Mistlands a go from a fresh save and I seriously can't understand why its considered good or how they signed off on this.
You can't see anything even with the things designed to let you see
The terrain is awful and made worse by the Mr mighty Viking who can kill gods but can't walk over an ankle high rock and acts like every slight slope of rock is actually ice, get some new boots mate.
Things keep spawning behind you when you turn around, awful pop ups/ins from low view distance and LOD distance.

I feel like the design philosophy from these devs seems to revolve around contradicting their vision and making life for players needlessly dull/slow. I don't mind using mods and will have a look but the base experience is getting worse rather than better and I don't see the core pet peeves being 'fixed' or changed, luckily they had 3 great biomes set to go from the start because if they were like Mistlands the game wouldn't be nearly as popular.

Time to forget about Valheim for another 2 years and see if it improves, which should give me just enough time to check out Dwarf Fortress!
6:13 pm, February 3, 2023
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KingKickAss replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 4:47:56 pm PST

I think the dev had several visions for the Mistlands and rather than pick one, he went with them all.
3:13 am, February 4, 2023
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Nerevar replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 5:43:54 pm PST

Originally posted by Vazkulator:
https://youtu.be/MVbeoSPqRs4?t=38
should be difficult to come up with an excuse for any of the designs for any of the character models and how it creates a real obvious wall with two completely different natures of valheim

hands down the worst update to valheim

maybe for you. i love the mistlands. and it helps to level up your jump skill. its at 100 now and i climb these rocks like a champ and then fly accross with the feather cape. this means i travel this biome now just as fast as the others since the glideing makes up for jumping up first easyly. and it makes ore/scrap transport back to boat stupid fast.

as for the tc : the game is SUPPOSED to be taken SLOW. not fast. the mainstream casuls always want games to be nice easy and fast. this isnt meant for the mainstream clearly.

the only thing i wish would get improved is the slope fighting issue in GENEREL. as thats just outright bs and shouldnt be too hard to fix with a few hitbox tweaks for the player character. this has however nothing to do with mistlands update directly and is a generel issue in the game.

and them adding these DAMN UPGRADES finally ffs. no other tier of gear can only get to level 2 when you get it. you feel the lack of armor upgrades and it makes carapace set nearly pointless to use. that was never the case for the other biomes armors.
3:13 am, February 4, 2023
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YosemiteBear replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 6:29:07 pm PST

its pretty bad. im pretty excited for the lava/fire one
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Vazkulator replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 6:59:06 pm PST

Originally posted by Nerevar:
Originally posted by Vazkulator:
https://youtu.be/MVbeoSPqRs4?t=38
should be difficult to come up with an excuse for any of the designs for any of the character models and how it creates a real obvious wall with two completely different natures of valheim

hands down the worst update to valheim

maybe for you. i love the mistlands. and it helps to level up your jump skill. its at 100 now and i climb these rocks like a champ and then fly accross with the feather cape. this means i travel this biome now just as fast as the others since the glideing makes up for jumping up first easyly. and it makes ore/scrap transport back to boat stupid fast.

as for the tc : the game is SUPPOSED to be taken SLOW. not fast. the mainstream casuls always want games to be nice easy and fast. this isnt meant for the mainstream clearly.

the only thing i wish would get improved is the slope fighting issue in GENEREL. as thats just outright bs and shouldnt be too hard to fix with a few hitbox tweaks for the player character. this has however nothing to do with mistlands update directly and is a generel issue in the game.

and them adding these DAMN UPGRADES finally ffs. no other tier of gear can only get to level 2 when you get it. you feel the lack of armor upgrades and it makes carapace set nearly pointless to use. that was never the case for the other biomes armors.
its nice that you like jumping but i dont know how it makes it a less casual experience to take things slow or how that is relevant with casual or not but you didnt provide any details how it is made more difficult so im not sure what i can answer when the message is quite literally void of thought besides that you have a fascination with jumping.

your first innitial point is that your jumping makes things easier and faster and then youre assuming that the game was meant to take slow and that casual wants things easier and faster ?

you contradict yourself left and right that im just completely lost
3:13 am, February 4, 2023
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Vazkulator replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 7:00:43 pm PST

Originally posted by YosemiteBear:
its pretty bad. im pretty excited for the lava/fire one
same here, i love the theme of surtr and hopefully they put more thought into it and take the time they need to make it an enjoyable experience that doesnt feel rushed
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Lil brekky replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 1:15:51 pm PST

the vision was "lack of vision" :stimulation:
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Vazkulator replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 1:39:18 pm PST

Originally posted by Lil brekky:
the vision was "lack of vision" :stimulation:
i remember someone from their team citing the active user graphs and was referencing mistlands as something "that the users loved by a larger majority" because the active users graphs was spiking around hte mistlands release

whilst the spike was in the middle of the christmas / new years eve discounts,
personally i didnt know what mistlands was about in any way shape or form like 2 weeks after buying the game, yeah.. when it was on discount ? of course i was the "spike" as well
12:13 am, February 4, 2023
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ToddUmptious replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 1:42:58 pm PST

I don't think you're playing the same game as me :shrugging_sign: One does not simply waltz into the Mistlands.
12:13 am, February 4, 2023
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Kruxed replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 3:50:26 pm PST

Originally posted by ToddUmptious:
I don't think you're playing the same game as me :shrugging_sign: One does not simply waltz into the Mistlands.
Sean Bean always dies, I walked right in, beat up some seekers, got scared by a soldier and then some weird annoying air balloon thing turns up throwing giant head lice at me, some random dude with a crossbow walks in and gets 2 shot by the soldier.
I thought to myself that this is a land of crazy hallucinogenic ♥♥♥♥ filled with super glue so you can't move and lose all your stamina from jumping while barely seeing any of the crazy action going on after I decided to kite 3 Lox into the party.

Its sounds great on paper, other than the terrain, but really its a mess and worst of all you can't even see it lol
12:13 am, February 4, 2023
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Vazkulator replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 10:16:51 am PST

https://youtu.be/MVbeoSPqRs4?t=38
should be difficult to come up with an excuse for any of the designs for any of the character models and how it creates a real obvious wall with two completely different natures of valheim

hands down the worst update to valheim
9:13 pm, February 3, 2023
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Cris replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 11:20:44 am PST

Let me know if you figure it out. ML made me quit the game for good. Had fun for hundreds of hours up until.
9:13 pm, February 3, 2023
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Vazkulator replied to Other than annoying what was the vision for Mistlands? February 3, 2023 @ 10:09:51 am PST

vision for mistlands ? ask the starcraft guy in the dev team :lunar2019laughingpig:
https://youtu.be/SwIzMcnP_58?t=30
6:13 pm, February 3, 2023
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