Empty nests

I keep finding empty troll caves. Does this mean that it's simply now and forever empty or just waiting to spawn something? That is, do I mark it off or keep checking in for residents?
2:13 am, May 18, 2023
Emelio Lizardo 0 comments 0 likes

AsianGirlLover replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 10:24:01 am PDT

Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.

Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
8:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

sarteck replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 11:31:37 am PDT

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.

Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
It's my headcanon that they were eliminated/looted by Ulf, Astrid, Harald, Frida, Bjarni, or one of the other Vikings we see mentioned on the Runestones.
8:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

AsianGirlLover replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 11:37:37 am PDT

Originally posted by sarteck:
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.

Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
It's my headcanon that they were eliminated/looted by Ulf, Astrid, Harald, Frida, Bjarni, or one of the other Vikings we see mentioned on the Runestones.
So what you’re saying is that, on our hunt for trolls, we got trolled. ;-p
8:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

RagnCharran replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 8:49:36 am PDT

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:
Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
I know at some point in the dev cycle I've seen troll pairs, one outside the cave guarding the entrance and one inside. Definitely stuck in my mind because I associated it with a mated pair, where the outside one was the male protecting a maternity nest for the female.

Like all these discussions of course the key words there are "at some point in the dev cycle", I have no recent memory of seeing this so perhaps current state a change in the spawn rules or a new bug has changed this.
5:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

sarteck replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 10:01:56 am PDT

Originally posted by RagnCharran:
Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:
Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
I know at some point in the dev cycle I've seen troll pairs, one outside the cave guarding the entrance and one inside. Definitely stuck in my mind because I associated it with a mated pair, where the outside one was the male protecting a maternity nest for the female.

Like all these discussions of course the key words there are "at some point in the dev cycle", I have no recent memory of seeing this so perhaps current state a change in the spawn rules or a new bug has changed this.
We've seen it twice on our current server (started less that two weeks ago). It's still the same; there's a chance for one to spawn outside, a different chance for one to spawn inside, the inside one will not respawn, and the outside can be a spawn point.
5:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

.FrostByte replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 6:52:56 am PDT

I think its different with infested mines since i remember clearing one and then returning to see if i forgot something to see a bunch off seekers and no loot.
2:13 pm, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

Renlish replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 8:30:43 pm PDT

Once you clear an instance (graves, caves, chambers, etc), they stay clear and don't respawn anything. So you're safe to mark it off as done.
5:13 am, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

knighttemplar1960 replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 9:23:49 pm PDT

Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
5:13 am, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes

umop-apisdn replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 7:08:03 pm PDT

As far as I am aware, they are permanently empty; just as Burial Chambers do not respawn Skeletons, Troll Caves do not respawn Trolls.
2:13 am, May 18, 2023
0 comments 0 likes