Empty nests
I keep finding empty troll caves. Does this mean that it's simply now and forever empty or just waiting to spawn something? That is, do I mark it off or keep checking in for residents?
2:13 am, May 18, 2023
AsianGirlLover replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 10:24:01 am PDT
Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.
Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
8:13 pm, May 18, 2023
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sarteck replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 11:31:37 am PDT
It's my headcanon that they were eliminated/looted by Ulf, Astrid, Harald, Frida, Bjarni, or one of the other Vikings we see mentioned on the Runestones. Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.
Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
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AsianGirlLover replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 11:37:37 am PDT
So what you’re saying is that, on our hunt for trolls, we got trolled. ;-pIt's my headcanon that they were eliminated/looted by Ulf, Astrid, Harald, Frida, Bjarni, or one of the other Vikings we see mentioned on the Runestones. Yeah, it’s a weird design decision. No troll spawns outside, no troll spawns inside, and sometimes there’s not even any treasure.
Some seeds literally just generate empty caves and it sucks. Immersive, maybe, but disappointing.
8:13 pm, May 18, 2023
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RagnCharran replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 8:49:36 am PDT
I know at some point in the dev cycle I've seen troll pairs, one outside the cave guarding the entrance and one inside. Definitely stuck in my mind because I associated it with a mated pair, where the outside one was the male protecting a maternity nest for the female. Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
Like all these discussions of course the key words there are "at some point in the dev cycle", I have no recent memory of seeing this so perhaps current state a change in the spawn rules or a new bug has changed this.
5:13 pm, May 18, 2023
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sarteck replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 10:01:56 am PDT
We've seen it twice on our current server (started less that two weeks ago). It's still the same; there's a chance for one to spawn outside, a different chance for one to spawn inside, the inside one will not respawn, and the outside can be a spawn point.I know at some point in the dev cycle I've seen troll pairs, one outside the cave guarding the entrance and one inside. Definitely stuck in my mind because I associated it with a mated pair, where the outside one was the male protecting a maternity nest for the female. Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
Like all these discussions of course the key words there are "at some point in the dev cycle", I have no recent memory of seeing this so perhaps current state a change in the spawn rules or a new bug has changed this.
5:13 pm, May 18, 2023
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.FrostByte replied to Empty nests May 18, 2023 @ 6:52:56 am PDT
I think its different with infested mines since i remember clearing one and then returning to see if i forgot something to see a bunch off seekers and no loot.
2:13 pm, May 18, 2023
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Renlish replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 8:30:43 pm PDT
Once you clear an instance (graves, caves, chambers, etc), they stay clear and don't respawn anything. So you're safe to mark it off as done.
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knighttemplar1960 replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 9:23:49 pm PDT
Anecdotally I have found that If I kill a troll outside a troll cave the cave contains no troll when I explore it.
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umop-apisdn replied to Empty nests May 17, 2023 @ 7:08:03 pm PDT
As far as I am aware, they are permanently empty; just as Burial Chambers do not respawn Skeletons, Troll Caves do not respawn Trolls.
2:13 am, May 18, 2023
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