Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

They're a renewable resource, but only once you reach the swamp.

Originally posted by blprice61:

Not unlucky, I've seen as few as one or even none (once), and as many as a dozen or more. For me the average seems to be needing two or three dungeon expeditions to get to at least five, preferably a dozen, to start with. Five is workable, just build kiln first, make 6x as much coal as the amount of bronze you figure to get early on, then deconstruct it and build a smelter.

Originally posted by Midir:

You need to find at least one more so you can switch between kiln and smelter. If there isn't more dungeons on your island, the only option is to build a raft and sail to different area.

Originally posted by Utah1982:

Originally posted by Midir:

You need to find at least one more so you can switch between kiln and smelter. If there isn't more dungeons on your island, the only option is to build a raft and sail to different area.

I was wondering about that. So you do have to build a raft and it's not a great idea to swim right?

Depends entirely on the distance and what waits on the other side. If you practice swimming a bit and eat lots of stamina foods, you can swim across most rivers and sometimes to small offshore islands. When in doubt, or if you expect danger on the other side, use the best boat you have (raft early on).

I would not advise going into the Ocean on a raft. Doing a 360 barrel roll during a storm is only fun before the monsters eat you.

Originally posted by Utah1982:

As far as ocean to lake to river, is there a way to tell the difference other than distance? Does the water change colors, etc?