There are many ways to work around structural integrity. Some more cheesy than others. You can build quite high in mistlands:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2616760745

You can do similar things with swamp trees, but not nearly as high.

You can also use the land/dirt to build quite high. This was built up a cliff, but you could make a pile of dirt in the middle of your house to build around, I would imagine.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624259961

If the block/beam is blue, it's essentially at ground level.

I just use portals to different areas of the map so I'll have one called "Farm" that has a boar enclosure + carrot / beet farm with some nearby tree plantings.

It's right next to the boss trophy power up area which I tried to use as a deer enclosure but made the mistake of allowing a tamed boar inside which went on a deer killing rampage. Yes you can't tame deer so it was just purely for fun and I eventually got to like 5 or 6 in the enclosed area.

Boars only breed if you are near them (their model is loaded)

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

There are many ways to work around structural integrity

Yes i know, but i try to build without cheese you cant be sure the devs will not patch this out and destroy that base

Originally posted by Nameless:

Boars only breed if you are near them (their model is loaded)

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

There are many ways to work around structural integrity

Yes i know, but i try to build without cheese you cant be sure the devs will not patch this out and destroy that base

Sure. All of mistlands could change, which would probably cause some issues for my treehouse. :-)

Using dirt/terrain, of course, is standard practice, so I don't see that changing, but I guess, for what you're doing, it's probably best to just assume you're building on flat ground.

Originally posted by Nameless:

Thats only a testbuild.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624142407
Allready larger as i aimed for, next try i aim for 12m less with (thats one of the sides)
The problem is that so smaller you make the compound so bigger becomes the issue

I search for the best possible base. What means
1: So small as possible
2: Ressource saving
3: So low Tier material as possible (The base above used no iron)
4: Good usability
5: Upgradeable (start with wood and then upgrade, dont build new bases each Game stage)
6: arround 70-110 indor floortiles and a Ceiling heigh of 5 meter. Thats arround the place you need to place all stuff + garden +Smelter, Kiln, Windmill... +Boar and Wolf Pen (lox make no sense inside a base)
7: The Stations placed in a way that Crafting from containers work as wished. For example no Wood storage near a kiln that empty the Storage it shall not empty.

And in that context my biggest issues with the gamerules are
1: Boar fear fire
2: Wood Pillars rots if no roof is above (what is a big issue for stuff like that)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624150624
3: Wolfes Destroy walls if enemys are near
4: Irron pillars come so late that a upgrade is extreme difficult
X: wolf howling i stopped with a mod


I know its a endgame issue the most people dont have.

Why do you need double stone walls, or stone at all when you're already building above cliffs?

Also, it looks like you have plenty of room for lox.

The double stone walls are just something i tried out,
And i needed them to get the roof stable.
And there are no stone 1m stairs

However, i made really many bases and the Boar issue came up on most of them.
And i use no mods that break content if the mod is disabled. So the boars are a issue i cant fix with a mod (that exists)

Things need space. You are trying to place all end game material in a fairly small area. It is possible but you have to build inside the constraints you have put on your self. The game doesn't expect you to cheese it and make big islands.

Nor does the game assume you are going to try to build a full end game base like that in a 26x26m-28x28m area. My starter base I felt was compact and it was 28x28 inside (room for 196 floor tiles) with walls defenses that were/are 8m thick. Inside the 14 I had everything really needed up to Moder. (Small Garden, Boar Pen, Work Bench, Sleeping/Rest area, cooking, Smelter x2 Kiln, Bee Hives, storage, and upgrades. Other than being larger than what you suggest it meets all the requirements. All you have to do is place the fire on one side and the boars on the other.

The fire isn't an issue it is you are trying to do something that it wasn't designed for. (Not a criticism... but it is a reality and that means you may not always succeed or have to get creative) Fire just has to be 6 floor tiles (maybe closer) away.

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Why do you need double stone walls

To answer that
Next testbuild (i trashed the idea of a upgradeable base, its just impossible)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624208827
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624208851
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624208871
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624210885

Almost like the devs didn't design farming around being compact or something.

Originally posted by Midas:

Almost like the devs didn't design farming around being compact or something.

very true.

With a base that small, the boars won't even breed fast enough to be a viable source of meat since their breeding is controlled by # of boars in a specific area.

Originally posted by Frostbringer:

Originally posted by Midas:

Almost like the devs didn't design farming around being compact or something.

very true.

With a base that small, the boars won't even breed fast enough to be a viable source of meat since their breeding is controlled by # of boars in a specific area.

Thats solvable by a breeding tower but not by a Pig pen story because of the issue this thread is about

You cant have the Boars on ground and the rest of the base above, and you are right, this pen is not enough
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624244060

Is your goal to build a small footprint, or volume?

Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Is your goal to build a small footprint, or volume?

Both, the first is more important, the second one a result of structural integrity and if possible no use of iron for the building

Btw the Mainroom is now 65 Tiles big and its BIT too small. arround 80 should be perfect
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624244036
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624244012
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624243985
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624243941

So the next one will have the garden behind (with breeding tower)
and each side 2 Tiles broader so that i have 85 Tiles
Lenghten the Garden by 2 Tiles should be enough to keep the boars away enough
We will see

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624251859


btw did H&H change that windmills can be build on roofs, Or does one of my mods do stuff he should not ?

Just make a wooden fence pen along the back somewhere. You're already on an island, not like enemies will get up and kill them.

Thats only a testbuild.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624142407
Allready larger as i aimed for, next try i aim for 12m less with (thats one of the sides)
The problem is that so smaller you make the compound so bigger becomes the issue

I search for the best possible base. What means
1: So small as possible
2: Ressource saving
3: So low Tier material as possible (The base above used no iron)
4: Good usability
5: Upgradeable (start with wood and then upgrade, dont build new bases each Game stage)
6: arround 70-110 indor floortiles and a Ceiling heigh of 5 meter. Thats arround the place you need to place all stuff + garden +Smelter, Kiln, Windmill... +Boar and Wolf Pen (lox make no sense inside a base)
7: The Stations placed in a way that Crafting from containers work as wished. For example no Wood storage near a kiln that empty the Storage it shall not empty.

And in that context my biggest issues with the gamerules are
1: Boar fear fire
2: Wood Pillars rots if no roof is above (what is a big issue for stuff like that)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2624150624
3: Wolfes Destroy walls if enemys are near
4: Irron pillars come so late that a upgrade is extreme difficult
X: wolf howling i stopped with a mod


I know its a endgame issue the most people dont have.