ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU

What kind of nonsense goes into deciding that the ONE automated defence in the game will actually kill the player character?

DEVS, can you please fix this GLARING error in your programming? Stop killing players, tamed animals, and have the damn things ONLY target hostile creatures!
12:13 am, January 4, 2023
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bzz replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 4, 2023 @ 4:46:00 am PST

Originally posted by Rhapsody:
You don't have to use it.

Valheim is not a tower defense game.

Don't matter what kind of game it is, it's in the game therefore, complain if it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Simple as that
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M.Red replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 4, 2023 @ 4:52:14 am PST

Originally posted by Sokaku:
I disagree, it is a perfectly viable defense that you need to take care around. It's no different to having a turret or alarm on a motion sensor, or a claymore mine. These are very viable means of defending an area, but they don't discriminate between friend or foe so you use them on approaches that you don't expect to be using yourself, otherwise you approach with extreme caution.

The fact that Valheim introduces anything like an automated defense is already a big stretch. Simply remember the mantra "Face towards enemy".

thats tru - but a mine for instance is static
if one lays that sort of trap one can avoid getting hit
an magically moving ballista (damn i dislike this thing) could be hard to avoid because it could hit one accidently

and dont really like the decision to put this and "staffs for magic"into valheim
it just dont fit into the theme
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bzz replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 4, 2023 @ 4:53:03 am PST

Originally posted by Sardonic:
"My motion activated ballista shot at me when I ran in front of it and I think it's stupid."

Does that about summarize your argument? That's like being mad that a rat trap hurt your toe when you stepped on it or that an electric fence shocked you when you touched it. Try being smarter than the ballista dude.

lmao, this community is something else. You do realize Valheim ain't real life ? It's a game, the devs can make whatever they want. They added a turret in the game, guess what most people would assume would happen when you build it ? To shoot the enemy, not you.
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Bobisme replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 4, 2023 @ 4:56:34 am PST

We're lucky to get automated defense at all, the trade off is it isn't some sort of intelligence, just shoot what moves, need to plan accordingly.
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Iv@N replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 4:48:06 pm PST

that this as an endgame craft targets players is irritating and not fun at all, like the part where teleporting with ore is not allowed, its meh
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Sardonic replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 4, 2023 @ 4:03:44 am PST

"My motion activated ballista shot at me when I ran in front of it and I think it's stupid."

Does that about summarize your argument? That's like being mad that a rat trap hurt your toe when you stepped on it or that an electric fence shocked you when you touched it. Try being smarter than the ballista dude.
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Rhapsody replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 4:09:23 pm PST

You don't have to use it.

Valheim is not a tower defense game.
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He Who Has No Name replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 2:53:32 pm PST

They've said it's deliberate.
It's absurd and incomprehensible, but it's deliberate.
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Screenblast89 replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:09:58 pm PST

Just place a 'keep out' sign and punish anyone who trespasses on your property.
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JimmyLurks replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:14:42 pm PST

This sounds like one of the more stupid things in the game. I've yet to reach the level to make them, but I am curious about the method people use for it.

Knowing that it targets players and allies, maybe it would be ok to set them up in like little 3/4 closed wall area made from raising the ground or something? So something like it wouldn't be able to target the interior of your base, but it can shoot outwards at approaching enemies. More like a line of sight thing.

I doubt anything for this is actually ideal, but it might help for people that want to still use them. Otherwise, I'd imagine being set up at a far enough distance to just get the edges of the approaching areas might be ok?
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Toadkiller Dog replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:16:19 pm PST

Originally posted by He Who Has No Name:
They've said it's deliberate.
It's absurd and incomprehensible, but it's deliberate.


Deliberately stupid.
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Screenblast89 replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:33:33 pm PST

Theoretically even if it would only target threats the protection is still nearly useless since the bolts travel way too slow and often miss the target when it's moving.

Considering you get it in the black metal phase of the game it is way too late to provide any meaningful protection against enemies you can't already handle and don't bother using it as anti-air artillery against Gjalls it doesn't do enough damage to keep you safe and likely it will miss all the shots anyway.
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Gregomoto replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:36:48 pm PST

How can they hit you? Mine are more than terrible at aiming.
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Lil Nam replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 3:57:58 pm PST

It's pretty obvious how to set these up to properly defend your base without risking your skin.
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Sokaku replied to ITS NOT A DEFENCE IF IT KILLS YOU January 3, 2023 @ 4:00:56 pm PST

I disagree, it is a perfectly viable defense that you need to take care around. It's no different to having a turret or alarm on a motion sensor, or a claymore mine. These are very viable means of defending an area, but they don't discriminate between friend or foe so you use them on approaches that you don't expect to be using yourself, otherwise you approach with extreme caution.

The fact that Valheim introduces anything like an automated defense is already a big stretch. Simply remember the mantra "Face towards enemy".
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