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WTF man. Why would you take away our rested? 30 minutes of rested was hardly enough to begin with. and fighting the stamina regen without it is a joke. :steamsad:
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Suzaku replied to Comfort April 17, 2023 @ 10:55:11 am PDT

Increases the duration of your rested buff.
11:13 pm, April 17, 2023
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Veseljko replied to Comfort April 17, 2023 @ 11:10:24 am PDT

comfort level + 7 = minutes of rested buff.
So if comfort level is 5, add 7 and you get 12 minutes of rested buff.
Rested buff is very important. While rested you get more XP and better stamina and health regeneration.
11:13 pm, April 17, 2023
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Tangoblue replied to Comfort April 17, 2023 @ 11:19:38 am PDT

I have comfort level 16 which gives me 23 minutes rested buff. enough to run around a game day...
11:13 pm, April 17, 2023
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rexpiscator replied to Comfort April 17, 2023 @ 11:30:45 am PDT

I'm up to 18 in my main base....25 minutes I believe, matches my food minutes!

Christmas Tree and the Maypole help get you there.
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L1m3r replied to Comfort April 17, 2023 @ 2:28:11 pm PDT

CL=22 -> 29 minutes.
But I'm using a mod[github.com] to restore VH's vanilla behavior of 1 CL per carpet or rug (not 1 regardless the number of rugs).

Btw.: Don't use the spyware "Comfort Tweaks"
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Zep Tepi replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 10:59:59 am PST

An entire day and night without sleeping was barely enough? What kind of drugs is your viking on?
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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FissionChips replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:13:04 am PST

That viking is dead, s/he doesn't need sleep anymore. If devs want to force sleep they should add a tired mechanic which competes with rest.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Quintium replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:17:40 am PST

You literally can put down a campfire and get 8 (10 if sheltered) minutes rested bonus at any time. Striving for 30 minutes rested bonus is pointless and just lazy gaming. Stop crying
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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eladswerdna replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:18:52 am PST

OMFG so they DID change something!! I thought I was going insane!! I can only seem to get max 18 rested now... sneaky devils.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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M'Hael replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:26:54 am PST

Originally posted by Quintium:
You literally can put down a campfire and get 8 (10 if sheltered) minutes rested bonus at any time. Striving for 30 minutes rested bonus is pointless and just lazy gaming. Stop crying

Lazy gaming....lol, it is so bizarre to me how people like you will defend even the most nonsensical changes. Do you think 30 minutes is to long of a stretch to play without having to go back to base or build a small shelter and make a fire? Because the game is not playable without rested bonus. Maybe they need to reduce the duration of food, it lasts too long. Also I was thinking food items should decay in the chest, perhaps 1 or 2 in game days before they are rotten...of course they could add a special refrigerated chest that extends that duration to 3-4 in game days. Max comfort was 20 when the game launched, now it is 18 and they have recently added the most stamina intensive biome to date.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Faceplant8 replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:33:55 am PST

Originally posted by Poqets:
WTF man. Why would you take away our rested? 30 minutes of rested was hardly enough to begin with. and fighting the stamina regen without it is a joke. :steamsad:

I had assumed the issue was mostly min/maxing, and not being able to max as much, but this comment suggests that some actually use/require 30 minutes of rested bonus, which doesn't make sense to me.

Assuming you're using a portal, it's just a matter of a couple of minutes to hop back to base at the end of the day, and hop back in the morning.

I play no-portal and sleep in shacks. I use the rested bonus clock as my watch to know what time it is. When it gets near zero, I slap down my sleep shack, pass the night, and get my next 11 minutes rested bonus.

What are you doing that requires 30 minutes of rested bonus?
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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FissionChips replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:41:45 am PST

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
What are you doing that requires 30 minutes of rested bonus?
Personally, not spending half my time building huts or travelling through portals. Also nights are no longer dangerous so sleeping is pointless.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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M'Hael replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:42:29 am PST

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
What are you doing that requires 30 minutes of rested bonus?
Trying to play a game for more than 10 minutes at a time....do you unironically stop every 10 minutes to build a house and sleep? Games in general are a complete waste of time to begin with, but this is just taking it to another level. Anything to keep you from actually doing anything in game.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Quintium replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 11:47:30 am PST

Originally posted by M'Hael:
Do you think 30 minutes is to long of a stretch to play without having to go back to base or build a small shelter and make a fire?

Did I say anything about going back to base? Or do you not know the game mechanic? I can play more than 30 minutes, with rested bonus, without going back to base once. Thanks to campfire. With a very small effort, you can have unlimited rested bonus and don't even need to worry about the perks at a "special location". This is why this change means nothing.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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M'Hael replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 12:03:25 pm PST

Originally posted by Quintium:
Do YoU nOt KnOw BaSiC mEcHaNic?!?! This is why this change means nothing.

It means something, I guess you just cannot understand what that is. They are slowing down gameplay, you say it means nothing, well you are wrong. Those couple minutes that you stop and build a fire and sit down to get rested every 10 minutes or so, all your food is still ticking away. So now you have to eat more food for the same amount of time you're actually "playing". Now you have to spend more time farming and raising animals and foraging, now you are spending more time standing in front of the cauldron making food, more time in front of the ovens baking those foods. It's all about increasing the grind, it really isn't that hard to see if you take a step back and stop assuming everything these devs do is gold.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Faceplant8 replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 12:13:19 pm PST

Originally posted by M'Hael:
Originally posted by Faceplant8:
What are you doing that requires 30 minutes of rested bonus?
Trying to play a game for more than 10 minutes at a time....do you unironically stop every 10 minutes to build a house and sleep? Games in general are a complete waste of time to begin with, but this is just taking it to another level. Anything to keep you from actually doing anything in game.

Yes I do. It takes about a minute, unless there is already one available, which there often is.

My gameplay is certainly not for everyone, but when I played with portals, I would just drop a workbench and portal, hop through (pretty much straight into bed), hop out, break down, and carry on. I assume you must do something similar, although every 30 minutes instead of 20?

Unless I'm piddling around the house, hopping home at night makes much more sense anyways. In the field I would spend most of the night dealing with mobs if I didn't sleep, using more food, wear on the equipment, etc.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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M'Hael replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 2:52:35 pm PST

Originally posted by Faceplant8:
Originally posted by M'Hael:
Trying to play a game for more than 10 minutes at a time....do you unironically stop every 10 minutes to build a house and sleep? Games in general are a complete waste of time to begin with, but this is just taking it to another level. Anything to keep you from actually doing anything in game.

Yes I do. It takes about a minute, unless there is already one available, which there often is.

My gameplay is certainly not for everyone, but when I played with portals, I would just drop a workbench and portal, hop through (pretty much straight into bed), hop out, break down, and carry on. I assume you must do something similar, although every 30 minutes instead of 20?

Unless I'm piddling around the house, hopping home at night makes much more sense anyways. In the field I would spend most of the night dealing with mobs if I didn't sleep, using more food, wear on the equipment, etc.

Every 30 minutes I go back to base and deposit my inventory, get 30 more minutes of rested, and then go back to what I was doing. I have probably slept a dozen times on a world closing in on 1300 days, and those times I slept were usually to pass a storm at night that was making construction of a project difficult. I said this previously a couple posts up, but all these times where you have to stop and go get rested back at base, or build a fire and sit on the ground for a couple minutes, your food is always ticking away. So now you have to eat more food for the same amount of time you're actually "playing". Now you have to spend more time farming and raising animals and foraging, now you are spending more time standing in front of the cauldron making food, more time in front of the ovens baking those foods. All they have done is superficial increase the grind with no real benefit. It is a lot like the fishing system, on the surface it looks much more fleshed out but in reality they didn't really do anything except hide the best stamina food behind a bunch of inventory clutter like having 10 different baits and having to have 270 stamina to reel in a fish from 7 meters. The only fish worth catching is the Anglerfish.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Faceplant8 replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 4:19:19 pm PST

Originally posted by M'Hael:
Originally posted by Faceplant8:

Yes I do. It takes about a minute, unless there is already one available, which there often is.

My gameplay is certainly not for everyone, but when I played with portals, I would just drop a workbench and portal, hop through (pretty much straight into bed), hop out, break down, and carry on. I assume you must do something similar, although every 30 minutes instead of 20?

Unless I'm piddling around the house, hopping home at night makes much more sense anyways. In the field I would spend most of the night dealing with mobs if I didn't sleep, using more food, wear on the equipment, etc.

Every 30 minutes I go back to base and deposit my inventory, get 30 more minutes of rested, and then go back to what I was doing. I have probably slept a dozen times on a world closing in on 1300 days, and those times I slept were usually to pass a storm at night that was making construction of a project difficult. I said this previously a couple posts up, but all these times where you have to stop and go get rested back at base, or build a fire and sit on the ground for a couple minutes, your food is always ticking away. So now you have to eat more food for the same amount of time you're actually "playing". Now you have to spend more time farming and raising animals and foraging, now you are spending more time standing in front of the cauldron making food, more time in front of the ovens baking those foods. All they have done is superficial increase the grind with no real benefit. It is a lot like the fishing system, on the surface it looks much more fleshed out but in reality they didn't really do anything except hide the best stamina food behind a bunch of inventory clutter like having 10 different baits and having to have 270 stamina to reel in a fish from 7 meters. The only fish worth catching is the Anglerfish.

You're clearly playing a builders game, which is fine, and, TBH, I don't really care about rug nerf or not, but to make it sound like the end of the world that you have to spend a few more seconds of your time resting seems a bit extrema to me.

But now, I need to get off the back of yet another Leviathan, pick up the serpent meat from the serpent that almost chewed through my karve, make sure the karve is still sea worthy, and try to get back to dry land.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Soulstinger replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 4:28:30 pm PST

Just fought the Queen and my rested bonus wore off before I even had her down 1/4.
Thats with a rested of 22 minutes with my house's set up. Few minutes spent getting to her.

As with the post H&H stamina system, the game is arguably not worth playing without the rested bonus, anything that detracts from it is a fairly serious blow.

No, having to head back to base or A base every 20 to 30 minutes isnt the end of the world, but it also isnt a great feature either.

I think the problem is more inherent to the current way Stamina works more than rested in itself. The base regen is just too low before cold or wet are even taken into effect, coupled with how long the cooldown is before you begin regenning, and much stam is used by running/jumping/attacking/blocking/rolling as things stand right now.

Even with 100 run and over 70 jump you run out ridiculously quick.

I think a good fix would be to either shorten or remove the cooldown before regen begins. That would be easier to balance than increasing the base regen rate.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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Foxglovez replied to Comfort December 20, 2022 @ 4:47:47 pm PST

Cold isn't an issue after a trip to the mountains. 30 minutes is good but the resting time is actually a good time to get up and move around. Your Viking may be dead and needs no sleep but humans need to move around on a regular basis. Swigging a beer doesn't count, nor does eating a bag of Cheetos.
If you have 1300 game days, it may be time to take a break if this is game breaking for you. Or mod your game, or use devcommands if you are just building, easy peazy. The rug bonus was OP and needed a nerf.

For fighting bosses that take a long time, not sure what the answer is now. IG obviously knows it's a problem but they have recently decided to put the brutal into what was certainly up to now not in any way a brutal survival game, despite their description otherwise.
The fun of EA.
Travel safe.
6:13 am, December 21, 2022
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