Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:

I'm already noticing a pattern coming in with the most recent update. Hearth & Home swapped the simple food system with something more complex that would require you to spend more time planning how you consume food in the game, making the game in general a bit more complex. It's not that bad and the devs did a proper good job at balancing it, but they have already taken a step towards making the game more complicated, diverging from simple. And sometimes, complicated = tiresome, boring, unfun. Not saying the update was bad, of course.

Originally posted by Let's Go Brandon:

This game has nothing that resembles "feature bloat". To be honest, feature bloat is synonymous with ubishat and other "AAA" publishers. This game is far from anything like that.

Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:

Originally posted by Let's Go Brandon:

This game has nothing that resembles "feature bloat". To be honest, feature bloat is synonymous with ubishat and other "AAA" publishers. This game is far from anything like that.

I didn't say the game is currently feature bloated. I just said that I hope it doesn't get bloated. The new update kind of steps into that territory and I'm getting a bit scared of the game diving deeper into it.

Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:

I'm already noticing a pattern coming in with the most recent update. Hearth & Home swapped the simple food system with something more complex that would require you to spend more time planning how you consume food in the game, making the game in general a bit more complex. It's not that bad and the devs did a proper good job at balancing it, but they have already taken a step towards making the game more complicated, diverging from simple. And sometimes, complicated = tiresome, boring, unfun. Not saying the update was bad, of course.

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Best not to feed the trolls folks. I'm sure this individuals overly articulated concerns would be met with critical conversation if it weren't for the fact that they have no basis in reality whatsoever.

Better not to engage.

*edit : After re-reading this I think my deeming the OP a troll may have been a bit too harsh.

I should also like to add that i sure hope that Iron gate does not fall victim to the easy pleasure that is robbing banks. They have shown an appreciation for capital gain with making such a fine game, and we all know it's a slippery slope.

Just saying, hope it doesn't happen.

Originally posted by Flare |UKCS|:

That is a long way to say that you dont like the food change O.o

From the store page
"A brutal exploration and survival game for 1-10 players, set in a procedurally-generated purgatory inspired by viking culture. Battle, build, and conquer your way to a saga worthy of Odin’s patronage!"

Game is hardly brutal and the survival part is very tame, in most survival games you need to spend ages to craft food so your avatar doesn't die, in this game food is a buff.
Players get upset as they 'farm' tonnes of food, make huge farms, massive boar operations... you dont NEED to do that to get anywhere, you can if you want but all this massive farming is not a requirement to progress.
You can just have a small farm, enough to craft some good food to buff your HP and/or Stamina, you can hunt enough to keep up.

Part of the issue is the way the food system was at launch, too simple, just use BIS and off you go... then sit in the forums and complain about lack of content :P

Other than the food system, I dont see any change that was made more complicate than previous... some mechanics added to help players, like the puke berries and the obliterator, to get rid of food so you can change up and to destroy unwanted items.

Originally posted by hand_sanitizzzzer:

"Feature bloat is when too many features are packed into a design, resulting in a product that is 'bloated' or stuffed with unnecessary elements. ... This results in products that are complicated, confusing or hard to use." - 5 second Google search

Now, don't come at me saying things like "don't like it, don't play it" or "git gud". This is not a rant on problems the game currently faces, or an opinion post. This is a concern about the game's increase in content and how it could make the game more complicated than it should be.

Complicated, of course, as in "what is the point of all this?" and "why do I have to do all of that?", not as in difficulty. More does not always equal better; smithing chainmail armor in real life is extremely time consuming and can be awfully tedious if you're not very enthusiastic about smithing. So should we make the process of smithing armor in the game just like in real life?

Of course, well implemented and polished content is always welcome and it's great to have a game that can provide hours and hours of fun. I'm not saying it should have less content. But, it's kind of like shaping a sword; a simple, straight blade will cut and do just as promised, but if you fill that poor thing with curves, spikes and holes, it'll become rather complicated to use and all that "content" will become a nuisance.

I'm already noticing a pattern coming in with the most recent update. Hearth & Home swapped the simple food system with something more complex that would require you to spend more time planning how you consume food in the game, making the game in general a bit more complex. It's not that bad and the devs did a proper good job at balancing it, but they have already taken a step towards making the game more complicated, diverging from simple. And sometimes, complicated = tiresome, boring, unfun. Not saying the update was bad, of course.

I just don't want the game to become a chore to play. And I hope the new content we get is fun, too. That's the point in games after all. I love Valheim and that's why I have concerns about it.

TL;DR: More ≠ Better. Please focus on quality and not on quantity, for future updates.

Originally posted by Lecherous Lychee:

A "pattern" would dictate that IronGate has a history of creating something that is 'unnecessary' deeming it as bloatware. Since H&H is Valheim's first major update, how did you conclude a pattern here?

Originally posted by G4M5T3R:

I'm curious what your take is on other big names in the genre like ARK. In comparison Valheim doesn't even hold a candle. Every survival game gets it's version of the H&H update, I don't see the need for any of your concerns tbh.