Password protection is there for a reason. If you have to police a person tgen there is no reason to play with them.

Until the devs add an option to character lock a server that is all you can do for now.

It is not bad design. It is as intended. Just doesn't work for YOU because your apparent friend doesn't care about the "rules" for the server.

Originally posted by HazePhase:

Originally posted by Lucidess:

If you're so confused why it doesn't matter, if you're so perplexed why people care, let me tell you: Valheim is at it's core, a survival game with a structured progression that marks the experience, time, and effort put into the current world. All that time spent leads towards large obstacles that must be overcome, and without cheating the obstacles simply exist. All the intended experiences simply do not exist when cheating for benefits occur, and most new players aren't looking to cheat on hour 0. They are looking for the intended experience, not YOUR intended experience.

"There is no triumph without a struggle" the wise man said.

It's a sense of commitment, and value, that is put into the server if server-side features were added in.

Preach brother, otherwise I think I'm going crazy.

The game is being de-valued beyond reason. There are "barriers to entry" for every multiplayer game in existence... Well every game except Valheim it seems and it's honestly a travesty.

And what gets to me is that if you search reddit or anywhere online you have people actively opposing viewpoints like mine. No wonder this feature hasn't been implemented if there are zealots out there who are missing the point. All we're really asking for here is for the game devs to implement a feature so, the game can be played as it was intended to be played. No omnipotent players shall exist in my multiplayer servers.

Otherwise this is all nothing but a large creative sandbox.

Its marketed as co-op and less so as a true multiplayer.

Originally posted by SushiJaguar:

Bait thread.

...but what about the silent majority and his guarantee about lots of players...?

Originally posted by loppantorkel:

...but what about the silent majority and his guarantee about lots of players...?

Perhaps not a bait thread, but certainly an exaggeration perpetuated by their major dislike for certain aspects of the game. You know, like that reviewer who negatively reviewed Valheim saying it has turned into a cooking/farming simulator since H&H. [sigh]

I know you jest. Just restating the obvious for others. ;)

How does someone cheating their stats ruin a server? There has to be more to it than someone just being more powerful than the rest.

Originally posted by QuantumFerret.ttv:

Password protection is there for a reason. If you have to police a person tgen there is no reason to play with them.

Until the devs add an option to character lock a server that is all you can do for now.

It is not bad design. It is as intended. Just doesn't work for YOU because your apparent friend doesn't care about the "rules" for the server.

I think you live in a bubble my friend. It is bad design, all you have to do is look at items with teleportation lock and see what was 'intended' to be moved around. I'm talking about a trojan horse starting every player in the face, there is no barriers in place to even deter people from spawning items in single to move to multiplayer. You could argue that it's a feature of the game even, given how easily it can be achieved.

Since when in games or any competition at all in the world do you rely on 'word of mouth' confirmation that someone is playing fair. Look at boxing, olympics and all of the tests they do to ensure players are not juicing to get an advantage. I expect nothing less from gaming competitively in a survival game.

I hear what you're saying but, what I'm asking for is not something that will affect you in any way. I'm asking for an optional feature and you're telling me how silly I am for asking for it. It's quite ignorant of you, not seeing my point of view. Not everybody has perfect friends and nobody should be EXPECTED TO HAVE because, of an online game, This is a very 'xD' argument on your behalf if I'm honest.

Just to add, I honestly feel insulted that I even have to ask for such basic, necessary game mechanics.

If you're so confused why it doesn't matter, if you're so perplexed why people care, let me tell you: Valheim is at it's core, a survival game with a structured progression that marks the experience, time, and effort put into the current world. All that time spent leads towards large obstacles that must be overcome, and without cheating the obstacles simply exist. All the intended experiences simply do not exist when cheating for benefits occur, and most new players aren't looking to cheat on hour 0. They are looking for the intended experience, not YOUR intended experience.

"There is no triumph without a struggle" the wise man said.

It's a sense of commitment, and value, that is put into the server if server-side features were added in. Mods are unfortunately the only way to remedy this situation, it doesn't have to be like that though.

You have all the tools you need at your disposal: World backups, character backups, console commands, and mods.
If someone in your group isn't playing fairly according to your group's agreed-upon rules, it's your responsibility to deal with it.

Originally posted by Lucidess:

If you're so confused why it doesn't matter, if you're so perplexed why people care, let me tell you: Valheim is at it's core, a survival game with a structured progression that marks the experience, time, and effort put into the current world. All that time spent leads towards large obstacles that must be overcome, and without cheating the obstacles simply exist. All the intended experiences simply do not exist when cheating for benefits occur, and most new players aren't looking to cheat on hour 0. They are looking for the intended experience, not YOUR intended experience.

"There is no triumph without a struggle" the wise man said.

It's a sense of commitment, and value, that is put into the server if server-side features were added in.

Preach brother, otherwise I think I'm going crazy.

The game is being de-valued beyond reason. There are "barriers to entry" for every multiplayer game in existence... Well every game except Valheim it seems and it's honestly a travesty.

And what gets to me is that if you search reddit or anywhere online you have people actively opposing viewpoints like mine. No wonder this feature hasn't been implemented if there are zealots out there who are missing the point. All we're really asking for here is for the game devs to implement a feature so, the game can be played as it was intended to be played. No omnipotent players shall exist in my multiplayer servers.

Otherwise this is all nothing but a large creative sandbox.

Originally posted by loppantorkel:

Originally posted by SushiJaguar:

Bait thread.

...but what about the silent majority and his guarantee about lots of players...?

hyperbole

Originally posted by HazePhase:

I can't get my friends to play this game with me. After a young brother of one of my friends cheated his stats/items in single-player and ruined our multiplayer server. Nobody wants a repeat of that but, there are no features in place to prevent this from happening again.

This is a pinnacle of bad design, considering it's a survival game and there is no option to protect your multiplayer servers. There is a silent majority that purchased this game and played it but, they were baffled by the blatantly poor world and character security design in this game.

I guarantee you now, there are lots of players out there who are waiting for just this feature.
If you take away a sense of achievement in a game from a gamer. You're making your game pointless and useless.

https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/892
Look that mod up.

Originally posted by Potato Cat:

Originally posted by HazePhase:

I can't get my friends to play this game with me. After a young brother of one of my friends cheated his stats/items in single-player and ruined our multiplayer server. Nobody wants a repeat of that but, there are no features in place to prevent this from happening again.

This is a pinnacle of bad design, considering it's a survival game and there is no option to protect your multiplayer servers. There is a silent majority that purchased this game and played it but, they were baffled by the blatantly poor world and character security design in this game.

I guarantee you now, there are lots of players out there who are waiting for just this feature.
If you take away a sense of achievement in a game from a gamer. You're making your game pointless and useless.

https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/892
Look that mod up.

Thank you kindly, stranger. I will download & install <3

Yea your raging about a non issue.. you can force server side characters only with a mod that you can put on the server.

whats going on with steam censoring stuff ?

Originally posted by Necrozis:

whats going on with steam censoring stuff ?

what are you talking about?

Password protection is there for a reason. If you have to police a person tgen there is no reason to play with them.

Until the devs add an option to character lock a server that is all you can do for now.

It is not bad design. It is as intended. Just doesn't work for YOU because your apparent friend doesn't care about the "rules" for the server.

Bait thread.