Originally posted by TinyGiraffes:

Originally posted by Seraphim:

SLAAAAAAAANDDERRRRR!!!!

Now if you're fighting two trolls? or a set of lox? Sure, I could see the battle being better then the atgeir, but why melee them in the first place?

You know what I don't get? Just give it more range then the atgeir! It's a massive chunk of iron at the end of a long handle, it literally would do more damage if you grip the handle and the very end! Something to give an archer spacing while dealing lots of damage? Now it's got a true niche.

Atgeir would most likely be a lot better against both of those scenarios considering it's pierce damage with is effective against trolls and neutral against lox. You can just middle mouse to stagger both trolls and m1 combo one of them to get it low. And more effectively kite the loxs due to it not having a 20% movement speed penalty.

How often is it that enemies are perfectly in range of your battleaxe to all get hit, but not hit you first to stagger or knock you back ? Rarely, unless you can dance around them for long enough, but usually by the time you do that, a regular weapon as well as atgeir would've been able to catch several enemies out by the time you find an opportunity that a battleaxe would excel at. A sword is of course a jack of all trades weapon, but feels much better against multiple enemies in comparison to the battleaxe.

To put it short, you have to put in more effort when using the battleaxe for it to come close to being as useful or practical as most other weapons. Now i would love a weapon design that causes you to need to form another playstyle that would take effort, IF, it was worth it. Battleaxe is just mediocre and i'll die on this hill saying that.

I would buff it by giving it slightly more damage, maybe make the swings a bit faster, but mainly focus on giving it the lowest multiple target damage reduction - so hitting multiple enemies/terrain wouldn't cause such a severe decrease in damage, therefore actually making it good against multiple enemies.