Originally posted by Vazkulator:

Originally posted by jonnin:

diablo 97 was a loot game, so every 3 second you put something into your bag. These somethings had like 10 different sizes, so making it fit was a large aggravation and you had to frequently run back to sell the junk which cost a portal scroll fee. So yes, it had an armor dummy that held your active gear, and in fact, 2 sets of weapons IIRC. But you had less bag space in practice (actual # of items held in it on the average) -- a LOT less. That is not to mention the very large 'rune' things you stow in your bag for a buff, at the cost of slots...

which I only mention because I don't think that it was better in spite of the armor dummy. Its the total capacity, not the dummy/no dummy, that is at issue here.

everyone knows that diablo 2 is the founder of the greatest gear system in gaming and all the biggest mmos has copy pasted it for decades since but everyone also agree that the storage was a problem and people kept multiple accounts to mule between multiple mule chars which substantially increased the storage cap with alot of inconvenient work between multiple accounts that also cost us money with extra cdkeys...
which inconvenient storage cap was also addressed and finally upgraded in D3 and D2R

we'll see if we'll blindly walk into the direction of pure inconvenience for 2 more years and call it early access shrugging our shoulders

Yeah but D2 also never was intended to be played the way we do it now. Blizzard back then did not know what they were doing, they just polished their products hard enough that they stood up above everything else and then playerbase was figuring out how to use those games best.

Diablo2 was fixed with mods (PlugY for example). Valheim is being fixed with mods too. The difference is that majority of players these days want to play D2 modded (or ressurected), while idk about numbers for Val, most likely majority still plays/prefers vanilla.

Speaking of Blizzard, we could get Starcraft into mix, as an example of the opposite, where the QoL that people so wanted kind of destroyed what made the first one good in the first place. And in places where fast paced RTSes are still popular like Asia (Korea) its the 25yo original thats more popular than its "much better" and still updated sequel.

Not saying QoL = bad, but its all not that easy. There is place for Minecraft with Vikings, there is also place for hardcore survival with Vikings. And thank gods *cough* mods we can have both.