Originally posted by umop-apisdn:

Stealth can also be trained the same as before the "rock nerf"; press Ctrl to sneak, then press "Q" to autorun into a wall within range but out of sight of a mob... then go do something else IRL for a while.

How are you doing that? Every time I autorun, it cancels the sneak. Also, when your stamina reaches 0 you go out of sneak mode.

Personally I like Skeleton spawners for training, as the bones have a use for many upgradables.

Originally posted by umop-apisdn:

And all of that being said, perhaps you should just... play the game? All of that "skilling up" doesn't change whether or not something can be done in the first place (with the exception of jumping, which does impact jump height); player skill is the determining factor much more often than character skill, and using an ability levels it... so just play.

There's a lot more exceptions than just being able to jump over a certain height. By that logic, many skills such as Block are extremely important for being able to parry enemies without being staggered. There's many thresholds in the game like that, and it comes from minmaxing instead of upgrading all the way to full and then overpowering your enemies with sheer gear.

But yeah, just don't get hit right? Skills don't matter right? Sure why not.